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Bull to Paper Democrats

Posted by invizweb on August 5, 2009

Originally posted on the F4W website.

Dave/Bryan,

On 7/24 I had read an article in the Queens (NY) Courier online talking about
New York Assemblyman Bob Reilly’s continued push to have MMA banned for life in New York State.  Below you can see the email that I sent to him through his web site, and immediately following you can see the reply that I got from him, which I thought was interesting, and wanted to share it.  It’s especially interesting for anyone who really thinks what Brock Lesnar did was worse than what Dan Henderson did.

— Andrew Kessler

—– Original Message —–
From: Robert Reilly < reillyr@assembly.state.ny.us>
To: ANDREW KESSLER (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN)
At:  7/30 10:07:06

akessler@bloomberg.net wrote:

>The following message has been posted on the online contact form:
>
>
>Message: Good afternoon Assemblyman Reilly,
>
>I recently read an article concerning your continued push to have Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) events banned for life in New York State, and I feel compelled to write to you about how upset I am to hear this.
>
>I would first like to ask a question.  Are you also pushing for Boxing, Kickboxing, Judo, Jiu-Jitsu and every other form of Martial Arts competition to be banned in the State?  If you are, although I don’t agree with you, I understand your position against violent sports.  If not, then why the double-standard by not allowing MMA?  MMA is simply a mix of all of these sports which, on their own, are perfectly legal and legitimate.
>
>Based on some quotes that I read from you, I would have to question if you’ve ever actually seen an MMA event within the past 8 years or if you are just assuming you know what it is?  This is not the same sport that John McCain called “human cockfighting” when he first lobbied to have the sport banned over a decade ago.  The athletes that compete today are as skilled and train as hard as athletes in any other mainstream sport, if not harder.
>
>Furthermore, there is no proof at all that MMA is more dangerous than boxing.  In fact, several studies have shown that it’s less dangerous.  Boxing has a lot of head injuries due to the repeated punches.  Due to the smaller MMA gloves and shorter fights, MMA fighters do not take nearly the number of shots to the head.  Also, take into account that MMA fights are just as likely to end by submission, or tap out, when someone is put in a painful submission hold.  Very rarely does someone suffer a serious injury in this manner, and if they do it’s not a brain injury.  If they are stubborn and don’t submit, they may suffer a break or a tear, but that will heal in a couple of months, and this seems like an inherent risk that you take when competing in a combat sport.  People suffer breaks and tears in Baseball, Basketball, and High School Football too.
>
>UFC 100 just took place recently and the complaint I heard from many first time viewers was not that it was too violent, but actually that it was too tame.  There were long periods where guys were on the ground grappling with each other.  They were not just punching each other in the head, but were trying to gain a good position where they could submit their opponent without inflicting any long-term damage.
>
>Jui-Jitsu competitions happen in New York State every weekend.  Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, and Judo happen on a weekly basis as well.  So can you please explain to me why a mix of them should not be legal?
>
>As a final thought, I always thought the role of government is to protect it’s citizens and work in the best interest of it’s citizens.  If private citizens are just about demanding the legalization of the sport, and there are no private citizens asking for it to be illegal, then why is government interfering?  Why is the government in my own state trying to tell me what I can and can’t watch?  Anyone who is not a fan of the sport does not have to attend an event.  That’s their right, and the sport is not for everyone.  But why should hundreds of thousands of people in a supposed free society be told that they can’t make this decision for themselves?  Where are all of the private citizens that say I shouldn’t be allowed to attend a live event in New York State that will bring millions of dollars in to the state?  I don’t see these citizens any where, all I see is government interference.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Andrew Kessler
>Queens, NY
>
>
Dear Andrew,

Thank you for your thoughtful letter on ultimate fighting although we
disagree.  If you saw UFC 100 you saw an unconscious fighter laying on
his back with his arms outstretched.  His opponent from a standing
position then slammed his fist into the unconscious fighter’s head.  Too
tame?  Not dangerous?

The problem exists because the rules of the various disciplines are
mixed.  For example, you can hit a fighter who is down.  This type of
violence is not how I want to define our society and not something I
want our children to think acceptable or something they should initiate.

Sincerely,
Robert Reilly
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1) Monopolizing the parenting of children
2) Monopolizing “society”
3) Culturally insensitive
4) Promoting censorship (the anathema of our most sacred of the most scared American laws, the First Amendment)

I call bull on his membership within the Democratic Party.  There is another Paper Democratic, a Wolf in Sheep‘s clothing who first made his name fighting against the First Amendment and then vocally promoted the sending of  some of America’s brightest youth to Iraq.  This one uses language similar to Bill O’Reilley, in how “society” must be homogenized under his regime.  Mixed Martial Arts, under Daido Juku in Japan, and Pankration in Greece, are recognized as national sports.  And Dan Henderson, the fighter under question, who usually doe snot lose his temper like, is an NCAA participant and represented the US in the 1992 and 1996 Summer Olympic Games.  Would Assemblyman Reilly revoke this as well?

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